cadellin . Not her, but at the time i did the artwork girl she did have magenta hair, it is sort of styled on her a little.
yes, she is cute...thankyou! we are both a pair of Rockabilly/punk people...
oz
being that my husband is still going to most of the meetings, i tied into the meeting sunday to see what the co had to say on his last day at the hall.
one thing i found interesting is that we may die in this system.
he said when he first learned the "truth" he just knew for sure that the system would end before he was baptized and he was so stressed out from it.
cadellin . Not her, but at the time i did the artwork girl she did have magenta hair, it is sort of styled on her a little.
yes, she is cute...thankyou! we are both a pair of Rockabilly/punk people...
oz
i have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!
my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.
he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.
and yet my mum, who i consider the only sane witness i know, was very happy to have me (D/F) and my girlfriend (now wife) stay with her. Out of respect i brought up sleeping arangements that we would be happy to sleep seperatly .
the visit was wonderful with absolutley no judgement nor even a hint of preaching at my girl.
i wish every body's JW mum was like mine
oz
being that my husband is still going to most of the meetings, i tied into the meeting sunday to see what the co had to say on his last day at the hall.
one thing i found interesting is that we may die in this system.
he said when he first learned the "truth" he just knew for sure that the system would end before he was baptized and he was so stressed out from it.
I left school at 16, did labouring jobs all my life (even now) . i remember before my dad left a few years before he wanted to start up some sort of insurance policy for us kids for later in life but was scoffed at by mum because well, we would be in the new system soon (75 was yet to come).
Dad left and was ridiculed for going to college... ha! he'll be dead before he even finishes... well, now he has RETIRED from being a chiropractor.
i never got told to manage money, we only bought our first house because the govt threw money at us and we sold it later to go pioneering. Bought the second house when kids came along ( we were never going to have kids... armageddon was too close) so she could have her own place to paint whatever colors she wanted instead of renting. It was not for the future.
got divorced and lost everything
spent 10 years struggling financially so i never saved a cent
now, 37 years after the WT imprint on my brain, and with a new wife considerably younger than my 47 years, i am finally having to deal with the need to provide for the future. I dont particularly want to spend my 'retirement' having to work but will probably have to.
we are finally able to save for land or a house deposit but real estate has gone insane here and i cant see us paying off 400K in the next 15 years.
i dont really blame anybody, i do wish my dad had been involved in my life though, it may have turned out different, i do wish my JW step dad had taught me about money like my sons JW step IS doing, but bottom line, i do resent the WBTS keeping us all dumbed down and wish i had thesmarts to go against the whole mentallity of 'it's around the corner' and planned for the future... ( but then again, the cow of an ex wife would have taken all that too!
oz
i have compiled a file that comprises pen-pictures of about twelve people mentioned by charles taze russell in his publications.
they either influenced russell, worked alongside him, or were influenced by him.
from their pages, they bring us a better understanding of that intense period.. http://www.jwstudies.com/people_important_to_russell.pdf.
Thankyou Doug, i will enjoy looking through it.
oz
i was walking down my street one day while being a"study " and heard some kids on bikes coming up behind me using every swear word there is aiming it at eachother , but not in anger , i turned round and was really shocked to see it wasthe two sons of an elder who lived near me ,and one of these boys was considered a "fine example " to other young ones .
because i felt "trapped " by the jws (my kids would die if i didnt stay with them !
) i moaned to my pioneer friend about not seeing the point of being a jw if the kids are just the same as "worldly" kids who they are not supposed to mix with and look down on.
my boy said the F word in the same room as me not long ago... while he was playing a computer game. He knew he was busted... i laughed. I was glad that he has obviously got 'worldly' influences...
oz
thursday, 04 february 2010 20:53. .
bielefeld, germany - a german pensioner charged with the attempted murder of 81 jehovahs witnesses by storming into their community hall and trying to open fire with a machine gun has denied all the charges, a court heard on tuesday.
the 83-year-old, who cannot be named, allegedly stormed into the meeting in the town of bielefeld and attempted to fire a machine gun at the group in july 2009 - but the weapon malfunctioned and the man was wrestled to the ground.. a psychiatrist for the defendant told the court that the accused had merely wanted to point out that islamists could be a danger to jehovahs witnesses.. the prosecution said he had tried to "maliciously shoot" as many as possible of the congregation.. the accused man has not yet addressed the court in person.. the psychiatrist said the pensioner told him that his dog had found the gun in the forest.
Does anybody remember the bombing of the kingdom hall in Sydney Australia? back in the late 70s early 80s i recall?
edit... just searched a found an older thresd about it. duh
oz
ever since i left this mind control cult i have continued to offer resistance in what ever ways i thought good at the time.. but i'm faced with the question: is it good or bad idea?
or how far should i go and to what lengths should i go in my efforts to fight this cult?.
i think being a jw for 29 years has defined a large chunk of my life and to just try to forget about it may be a big mistake.
I have not been investigating long enough to decide where it will take me.
do i want to do something bigger? sure. What though i dont know. Once the kids are safe i may just forget it all like i did for 10 years till a couple of months ago. right now i just want to prove all the crap about them to myself and get the kids out or at least stop them getting baptised as kids.
i have too many other rewarding things going on in my life to need or want the WBTS to take over. I'll be damned if they will consume another 37 years of my life thats for sure!
oz
i am a support worker for adults with profound disabilities and some with autism and i love caring for people ..
Self employed from home doing restoration work on classic corvettes.
spare time building a hotrod and painting hotrod art & fetish art
seems my life is about cars and girls!
oz
where do i look for actual documented proof that rutherford was an alcoholic, and that he got it in from canada during prohibition?.
cheers.
oz.
great documentation Leolaia, thankyou very much
oz
now to look up Danny haszard...
where do i look for actual documented proof that rutherford was an alcoholic, and that he got it in from canada during prohibition?.
cheers.
oz.
Thanks again all,
Chris, you are absolutley right about what to NOT tell the kids! I intend to be VERY carefull!
this research is for my own satisfaction. Out of it all, when the time comes i will be well informed as to what would be wise or not to use. I have 'family dispute mediation' next week and hope to secure and agreement by the ex that the kids cannot be baptised while minors, if it goes well, that gives me a bit more time to plan it all out.
Wha happened, any document like an autopsy report that can verify rats chewing him? curious...
cheers
oz